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ordinands the ordinands' association menu skip to content ordinands’ association current committee about oa my student self rev tom brazier rev simon rowbory bishop rob wickham training matters training matters: kirsten birkett training matters: mark tanner finance training grants financial hardship trips and placements considering ordination? going to a bap? courses & colleges contact details contact us search search for: book review: the trials of theology featured / ordinands / leave a comment “wherefore, then, do you allege that you had not time to learn how to cultivate my field?” this question is one that st augustine feared from god, as he says in a letter to his bishop that makes up chapter one of the trials of theology . augustine was convinced that he was unready for ministry and needed to take time out for further study and prayer in order to be fit for purpose. yet the study of theology can be a controversial issue, as well as a dangerous one! some feel there is a tension between acquiring knowledge of god and growing in a relationship with him, as if we must choose to do one or the other. this is not the case, although there is a danger that the student of theology will be tempted to separate the two. for example, during my first year of college, i often felt guilty about using my morning quiet time to finish off a last minute essay, or trying to get my head around a particularly hard lecture and missing the prayer meeting. on the flip-side, i have found myself sitting in chapel worrying that i wasn’t working as hard as i should be, or praying long rambling prayers to ward off the moment i’d have to begin an assignment i didn’t want to do! the trials of theology is an excellent little book which has helped me navigate my first year. one of the quotes which has stuck with me and helped me is from warfield: why should you turn from god when you turn to your books, or feel that you must turn from your books in order to turn to god? here warfield makes the point that reading and prayer are not ‘either-or’. rather, both activities contribute to our spiritual growth and can be used for god’s glory. although it is obvious, for me this remains a difficult thing to remember. of particular encouragement is the editors’ decision to include ‘voices past’ and ‘voices present’, going as far back as st augustine and coming forward to modern theologians like gerald bray and carl trueman. it is a particular privilege and comfort to read the wisdom of respected theologians of the past, and find that many of the issues that theological students face today are not new, and not unique to us. st augustine brings home for us of the sheer weight and difficulty of ordained ministry and the need to be learned in the scriptures and well prepared; c.s lewis warns us against our propensity to want to make it into the ‘inner circle’, the ‘in crowd’; carson reminds us that unless our study of the word is changing us and growing our love for god and his people, it is pointless; maybe even dangerous. these and many more wise voices in the book have much to offer us in the way of warning and encouragement. the book as a whole does an excellent job of outlining some of the pitfalls of studying theology, whilst at the same time commending it as both a joy and an essential task for those who would be sent out into the harvest field ready for the lord’s work. i would thoroughly recommend it to all christians (it is good for those who aren’t currently studying theology to understand and pray for those who are!) but especially to those embarking on theological study of their own. i pray it will be as useful to future students as it has been for me. ian chidlow is an ordinand from chester diocese, just beginning his second year of training at oak hill college in north london. . advertisements resilience, and how to get it featured / ordinands / 1 comment contemporary ministry brings a whole variety of stresses and strains. so how can people be best equipped for the long haul of evangelism, discipleship, pastoral care, leadership and ideological conflict? we asked kirsten birkett, who has recently carried out academic research on secular models of building resilience, to consider what ordinands most need in their training if they are to keep strong in serving christ and his church. it is a great second instalment in our training matters mini-series, and you can read it here . “my student self” – part three october 22, 2017 / ordinands / leave a comment today we publish the third instalment of our occasional series, in which the bishop of edmonton reflects back on his years at theological college. what is he grateful for, and what advice would he give himself now? you can read bishop rob’s thoughts here . new patron bishop for ordinands’ association october 21, 2017 / ordinands / leave a comment we are delighted to announce that rt rev mark tanner, bishop of berwick, is our new patron bishop. (he takes over from rt rev martin seeley, who is now chair of ministry council.) bishop mark is passionate about ordinands receiving training of the highest quality, and formerly served as warden of cranmer hall, durham. while his role as our patron does not involve direct responsibility for the management of the association, he will be a great advocate in the wider church and will be available to advise our standing committee. earlier this year bishop mark wrote in our training matters series about why the needs of the world demand that ordinands receive the best possible training . my student self…part two! september 4, 2017 september 4, 2017 / ordinands / leave a comment in the second instalment of our occasional series, north london vicar simon rowbory reflects back on his time in training a few years ago. what is he grateful for? and what, with a bit of hindsight, might he have done differently? read his post here. grant-making bodies september 4, 2017 / ordinands / leave a comment various charitable bodies offer grants to help with different parts of your training. we hope you find the lists below helpful. please do contact us if any of the details are incorrect, or if you are aware of any changes to the grants listed. training grants financial hardship trips and placements survey results 2017 july 29, 2017 august 1, 2017 / ordinands / leave a comment earlier this year, 250 ordinands took part in our national survey – with helpful and interesting results. between them, these ministers-in-training represent a dozen different training institutions (teis), and virtually every diocese (including the diocese of europe). three-quarters are in full-time residential training, and 90% are training for stipendiary ministry. 37% of those who took part were in their first year as an ordinand, 38% were in their final year, and around half had done some prior theological study before commencing training. training and care when ordinands reflect on the quality of the training and care they receive, there are some clear encouragements for dioceses and teis who work hard to provide these things. but meanwhile, there are some clear pressure points that come out of our survey. 85% think their course is preparing them “well” or “very well” for ministry life. but only 63% say the same when it comes to weighing up how well their course is preparing them to engage with modern culture and people outside of church. 85% have found their course “enjoyable” or “very enjoyable”, and the same percentage find it academically “suitable” or “very suitable” for them. 16 of the 250 respondents have a physical disability, 32 have a specific learning difficulty, and 30 are living with mental health needs. in each case, around two-thirds say their needs have been met “well” or “very well”. only one person with a physical disability felt their needs had been met “poorly” or “very poorly”; for those with a specific learning difficulty or with mental health needs that figure was higher, at around 20%. transition this ye

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